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	<title>Comments on: JACS, Science retracting three papers from leading Emory chemist Craig Hill</title>
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		<title>By: Lilly</title>
		<link>http://retractionwatch.wordpress.com/2012/06/08/jacs-science-retracting-three-papers-from-leading-emory-chemist-craig-hill/#comment-15519</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lilly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To Clare Francis,

The way scientific research is organized in France is a bit different from other countries. The vast majority of scientific researchers are civil servants and because of that the pressure to publish at all costs is lower in this country. There are also many intramural ethics committees which review research data before they go out for publication. This may explain the fact that there are less retractions in this country.  Also, in the French culture keeping strong ideals ( Enlightenment&#039;s ideals still exist in France) is much more important than other values like making a lot of money or having 100 times your name in a 1 year-publications cycle.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Clare Francis,</p>
<p>The way scientific research is organized in France is a bit different from other countries. The vast majority of scientific researchers are civil servants and because of that the pressure to publish at all costs is lower in this country. There are also many intramural ethics committees which review research data before they go out for publication. This may explain the fact that there are less retractions in this country.  Also, in the French culture keeping strong ideals ( Enlightenment&#8217;s ideals still exist in France) is much more important than other values like making a lot of money or having 100 times your name in a 1 year-publications cycle.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://retractionwatch.wordpress.com/2012/06/08/jacs-science-retracting-three-papers-from-leading-emory-chemist-craig-hill/#comment-14791</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Neil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 13:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here are some links interested readers can follow to find out more about this.

Kortz publishes a paper about similar compounds, mentioning Hill et al&#039;s work:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/anie.200703082/pdf
Hill responds to the Kortz paper, partly to discuss Kortz&#039;s work and partly his own previous papers:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/anie.200800919/pdf
Kortz responds:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/anie.200804795/pdf

The latter one is the paper commenter AGD linked to, but I thought people might appreciate the full story.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are some links interested readers can follow to find out more about this.</p>
<p>Kortz publishes a paper about similar compounds, mentioning Hill et al&#8217;s work:<br />
<a href="http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/anie.200703082/pdf" rel="nofollow">http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/anie.200703082/pdf</a><br />
Hill responds to the Kortz paper, partly to discuss Kortz&#8217;s work and partly his own previous papers:<br />
<a href="http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/anie.200800919/pdf" rel="nofollow">http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/anie.200800919/pdf</a><br />
Kortz responds:<br />
<a href="http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/anie.200804795/pdf" rel="nofollow">http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/anie.200804795/pdf</a></p>
<p>The latter one is the paper commenter AGD linked to, but I thought people might appreciate the full story.</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
		<link>http://retractionwatch.wordpress.com/2012/06/08/jacs-science-retracting-three-papers-from-leading-emory-chemist-craig-hill/#comment-14780</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sebastian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 07:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DrGeneNelson should also take a look at this topic page of the NY Times:

http://topics.nytimes.com/topics/reference/timestopics/subjects/c/cheating/index.html

One must note: One of the most widely read newspapers in the US is dedicating a full special section to this topic. Cheating is evidently prevalent wherever there is an advantage to be gained from test/competition results - from LI prep schools to the Port Authority. And I am sure we can find examples of this in any country.

In regards to what Penn State riots have to do with the riots in India: It is merely a juxtaposition of what evokes emotional responses in student populations in different countries. In India, it is/was crackdown on exam cheating. In Quebec, it is the raising of tuition fees. In the US, it is the firing of sports coach who did nothing to further the prosecution of a child rapist. Just an observation of some examples, which perhaps highlight the different priorities different populations have...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DrGeneNelson should also take a look at this topic page of the NY Times:</p>
<p><a href="http://topics.nytimes.com/topics/reference/timestopics/subjects/c/cheating/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://topics.nytimes.com/topics/reference/timestopics/subjects/c/cheating/index.html</a></p>
<p>One must note: One of the most widely read newspapers in the US is dedicating a full special section to this topic. Cheating is evidently prevalent wherever there is an advantage to be gained from test/competition results &#8211; from LI prep schools to the Port Authority. And I am sure we can find examples of this in any country.</p>
<p>In regards to what Penn State riots have to do with the riots in India: It is merely a juxtaposition of what evokes emotional responses in student populations in different countries. In India, it is/was crackdown on exam cheating. In Quebec, it is the raising of tuition fees. In the US, it is the firing of sports coach who did nothing to further the prosecution of a child rapist. Just an observation of some examples, which perhaps highlight the different priorities different populations have&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ressci Integrity</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ressci Integrity]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 02:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ivan: is it time to monitor this discussion? We are actually deviating from the retraction watch issues with this kind of arguments...scientific misconduct is more serious.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ivan: is it time to monitor this discussion? We are actually deviating from the retraction watch issues with this kind of arguments&#8230;scientific misconduct is more serious.</p>
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		<title>By: DrGeneNelson</title>
		<link>http://retractionwatch.wordpress.com/2012/06/08/jacs-science-retracting-three-papers-from-leading-emory-chemist-craig-hill/#comment-14765</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DrGeneNelson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2012 23:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Upon more careful examination of the U.S. Department of Labor LCA wage disclosure date for FY 2010, an Emory University  Biochemistry or Biophysics Postdoc for a mere $35,607 was located. This is a very low wage for a Ph.D. holder who is expected to work long hours. A strong employer-interest market intervention, endorsed by the U.S. National Science Foundation (NSF) yielded this outcome. Some historical background is found at &quot;How and Why Government, Universities, and Industry Create Domestic Labor Shortages of Scientists and High-Tech Workers&quot; By Eric Weinstein, Ph.D.  http://users.nber.org/~peat/PapersFolder/Papers/SG/NSF.html#SG Please refer to Section 5. The NSF&#039;s Real Shortage Study. You will learn that in the mid 1980s, the NSF wanted to discourage American ciitzens from pursuing Ph.D.s and instead sought liberal immigration policies to restrain wage growth.  The policy changes represent an occupation-specific tax on American citizen science and engineering Ph.D.s, including myself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Upon more careful examination of the U.S. Department of Labor LCA wage disclosure date for FY 2010, an Emory University  Biochemistry or Biophysics Postdoc for a mere $35,607 was located. This is a very low wage for a Ph.D. holder who is expected to work long hours. A strong employer-interest market intervention, endorsed by the U.S. National Science Foundation (NSF) yielded this outcome. Some historical background is found at &#8220;How and Why Government, Universities, and Industry Create Domestic Labor Shortages of Scientists and High-Tech Workers&#8221; By Eric Weinstein, Ph.D.  <a href="http://users.nber.org/~peat/PapersFolder/Papers/SG/NSF.html#SG" rel="nofollow">http://users.nber.org/~peat/PapersFolder/Papers/SG/NSF.html#SG</a> Please refer to Section 5. The NSF&#8217;s Real Shortage Study. You will learn that in the mid 1980s, the NSF wanted to discourage American ciitzens from pursuing Ph.D.s and instead sought liberal immigration policies to restrain wage growth.  The policy changes represent an occupation-specific tax on American citizen science and engineering Ph.D.s, including myself.</p>
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		<title>By: DrGeneNelson</title>
		<link>http://retractionwatch.wordpress.com/2012/06/08/jacs-science-retracting-three-papers-from-leading-emory-chemist-craig-hill/#comment-14764</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DrGeneNelson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2012 23:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[vhedwig&#039;s &quot;sound bites&quot; seem plausible until subject to scrutiny. There is no nation on Earth that is not a &quot;nation of immigrants.&quot;  As a native-born U.S. citizen, I obect to the declining wages and increasing cost of living caused by historically unprecedented levels of immigration to the U.S. Deception and corruption were significant political tools employed to accomplish these post-1976 policy changes. Furthermore, as noted by U.C. Davis Computer Science Professor Norm Matloff at his Georgetown University Law School Presentation on 17 March 2011, employer abuse of work visa programs has facilitated employment age discrimination, yielding a historically unprecedented &quot;internal brain drain&quot; as highly-qualified Americans, even those with Ph.D.s, are callously discarded by employers. http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/georgetown.pdf  

Perhaps you are a young beneficiary of these policies. I offer the caution summarized in the title of a 1992 article, &quot;Today&#039;s Immigrant, Tomorrow&#039;s Victim.&quot; Robert Rector recently provided U.S. Congressional testimony that debunks the &quot;taxpaying immigrant&quot; claims. In summary, most immigrant families receive far more in taxpayer-funded benefits than they pay in taxes.  Again, calling me names only draws attention to the weakness of your claims.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>vhedwig&#8217;s &#8220;sound bites&#8221; seem plausible until subject to scrutiny. There is no nation on Earth that is not a &#8220;nation of immigrants.&#8221;  As a native-born U.S. citizen, I obect to the declining wages and increasing cost of living caused by historically unprecedented levels of immigration to the U.S. Deception and corruption were significant political tools employed to accomplish these post-1976 policy changes. Furthermore, as noted by U.C. Davis Computer Science Professor Norm Matloff at his Georgetown University Law School Presentation on 17 March 2011, employer abuse of work visa programs has facilitated employment age discrimination, yielding a historically unprecedented &#8220;internal brain drain&#8221; as highly-qualified Americans, even those with Ph.D.s, are callously discarded by employers. <a href="http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/georgetown.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/georgetown.pdf</a>  </p>
<p>Perhaps you are a young beneficiary of these policies. I offer the caution summarized in the title of a 1992 article, &#8220;Today&#8217;s Immigrant, Tomorrow&#8217;s Victim.&#8221; Robert Rector recently provided U.S. Congressional testimony that debunks the &#8220;taxpaying immigrant&#8221; claims. In summary, most immigrant families receive far more in taxpayer-funded benefits than they pay in taxes.  Again, calling me names only draws attention to the weakness of your claims.</p>
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		<title>By: Clare Francis</title>
		<link>http://retractionwatch.wordpress.com/2012/06/08/jacs-science-retracting-three-papers-from-leading-emory-chemist-craig-hill/#comment-14759</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clare Francis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2012 20:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Jon Beckman,

There has been a string of retractions by people of all nationalities, in all countries, and in &quot;cross-over events&quot;.  Germany has had its share, Bulfone-Paus, Joachim Boldt, the batriatric surgeon Edward Shang . Singapore has featured, alirio Melndez. The U.K. is not immune, Melendez again. Japan has featured quite a lot. S Kato, Mori. The best at hiding fraud are the ones we do not hear about. China is not without retractions, Tan Jinquan. Retractions may be a sign of maturity. France and Russia have hardly featured. Perhaps we should look there? You make me sound PC!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Jon Beckman,</p>
<p>There has been a string of retractions by people of all nationalities, in all countries, and in &#8220;cross-over events&#8221;.  Germany has had its share, Bulfone-Paus, Joachim Boldt, the batriatric surgeon Edward Shang . Singapore has featured, alirio Melndez. The U.K. is not immune, Melendez again. Japan has featured quite a lot. S Kato, Mori. The best at hiding fraud are the ones we do not hear about. China is not without retractions, Tan Jinquan. Retractions may be a sign of maturity. France and Russia have hardly featured. Perhaps we should look there? You make me sound PC!</p>
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		<title>By: vhedwig</title>
		<link>http://retractionwatch.wordpress.com/2012/06/08/jacs-science-retracting-three-papers-from-leading-emory-chemist-craig-hill/#comment-14751</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vhedwig]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2012 18:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Short answer to DrGN... Rule 14 (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=rule%2014).

Long answer (thereby breaking rule 14).... (i) Overlooking the simple difference of 3-8 generations, YOU are an immigrant. The US was founded on immigration. (ii) &quot;Native&quot; US birth rates have been declining for decades. Immigration is the only way to stop us shrinking into oblivion. (iii) Given the necessity of immigration, who would you rather have? Highly educated PhDs from up-and-coming BRIC nations, or people with no qualifications? (iv) Immigrants pay taxes. Lots of taxes. They also get to pay into socal security but get none of it back unless they become citizens. (v) Racism comes in many shapes and sizes, and I do not care for your particular brand of it. Being a troll, it does not surprise in the least that you have played the terrorism conspiracy card in your racist ramblngs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Short answer to DrGN&#8230; Rule 14 (<a href="http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=rule%2014" rel="nofollow">http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=rule%2014</a>).</p>
<p>Long answer (thereby breaking rule 14)&#8230;. (i) Overlooking the simple difference of 3-8 generations, YOU are an immigrant. The US was founded on immigration. (ii) &#8220;Native&#8221; US birth rates have been declining for decades. Immigration is the only way to stop us shrinking into oblivion. (iii) Given the necessity of immigration, who would you rather have? Highly educated PhDs from up-and-coming BRIC nations, or people with no qualifications? (iv) Immigrants pay taxes. Lots of taxes. They also get to pay into socal security but get none of it back unless they become citizens. (v) Racism comes in many shapes and sizes, and I do not care for your particular brand of it. Being a troll, it does not surprise in the least that you have played the terrorism conspiracy card in your racist ramblngs.</p>
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		<title>By: Marco</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gene Nelson, may want to read this little list of the top ten cheating scandals in the US:
http://collegetimes.us/top-10-cheating-scandals-in-college-history/
or maybe look at this story:
http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/11/two_new_york_students_surrende.html

Cheating is of all time and all places.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gene Nelson, may want to read this little list of the top ten cheating scandals in the US:<br />
<a href="http://collegetimes.us/top-10-cheating-scandals-in-college-history/" rel="nofollow">http://collegetimes.us/top-10-cheating-scandals-in-college-history/</a><br />
or maybe look at this story:<br />
<a href="http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/11/two_new_york_students_surrende.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/11/two_new_york_students_surrende.html</a></p>
<p>Cheating is of all time and all places.</p>
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		<title>By: DrGeneNelson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DrGeneNelson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What is unique about U.S. work visa programs are that they are recent creations (post 1976) of the economic and political elite. The preferential hiring of work visa recipients because they are perceived to be less expensive and more willing to bend to the will of the hiring manager implies further erosion of the principle of meritocracy. Note also my previous comments regarding the fungibility (significant economic value) of being able to immigrate with their family to the U.S. from the developing world.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is unique about U.S. work visa programs are that they are recent creations (post 1976) of the economic and political elite. The preferential hiring of work visa recipients because they are perceived to be less expensive and more willing to bend to the will of the hiring manager implies further erosion of the principle of meritocracy. Note also my previous comments regarding the fungibility (significant economic value) of being able to immigrate with their family to the U.S. from the developing world.</p>
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